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when we were children our parents told

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lurking under the bed or in the closet

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fear sees even if our eyes are closed

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welcome to the realm of the arcane my

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name is lon strickler

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join me as i examine unexplained

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creatures

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strange manifestations and remarkable

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imagine this next hour as a voyage of

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discovery to strange lands

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seeking not for new territory but for

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new knowledge of the supernatural come

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on board

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as we begin this adventure together

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hey folks good evening and welcome to

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another episode of arcane radio

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where we explore the unexplained live on

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beyond explanation

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i'm your host lon strickler coming to

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you from the

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spectral shadows of gettysburg

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i want to welcome our listeners in the

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and in europe and uh hope you can

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join us continuously um

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now before we start the show and before

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now apparently this short video video

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was recorded by

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youtuber in poland who uh apparently

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have been hearing these snarling sounds

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emanating from the woods around his farm

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i ran this video through the cgi

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and there seems to be no digital changes

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at some of the screens captures uh that

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are coming up there

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now you know i i am i imagine this is

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probably a pale humanoid that people

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they have all kinds of names for it the

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you know crawler um there

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months before this one

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where this individual who had a you know

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and heard this these sounds again

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and but he wasn't able to capture this

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on the video but he got the sounds the

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for your determination but i think it's

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kind of interesting

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uh we occasionally will get something

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rangers in that in that area where these

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and uh if you have any comments

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and send them to me or send it to my

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email

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at lawnstricklerfansonmonsters.com

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so tonight i welcome well-known scottish

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paranormal live streamer

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kev baker to arcane radio now kev

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is based in glasgow scotland is the host

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of the popular podcast the kev baker

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show

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on truth frequency radio he also has his

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kbs channels on youtube now

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kev covers everything from geopolitics

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on his own live is on his own show and

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has a long time interest in the

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having being brought up in florida

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augustus on the southern end of

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loch ness kevin's uniquely placed to

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talk about

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loch ness monster and other incidents of

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in the highlands of scotland so kev

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up to join me this evening

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well lauren it's a pleasure to come and

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join you on your show you've been a very

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gracious with your time

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your information and coming on to my

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as well and i'm really looking forward

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to getting into some scottish woo with

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it sounds good that's what we're into

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yeah so i i guess the uh

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the monster in the room so to speak is

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the loch ness monster nessie

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so you're being raised on the lock

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uh first of all have you ever seen it or

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what association or what interest have

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you had in this phenomenon

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growing up there you don't truly

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appreciate what's on your own doorstep

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the attraction now but when i was

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that we were dealing with some kind of

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the long neck the flippers the kind of

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dinosaur

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looking monster that a lot of people

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with the lock over the years though

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as weird and as bizarre as skinwalker

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over in the us because it's not just one

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type of entity it's not just this one

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crypt that you get appear in their

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lawn and there's various descriptions of

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water entity then you've got stories

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other creatures around the world and i

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aleister crowley

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and everyone's heard of him right and he

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loch ness and buleskin house out of

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anywhere in the world he's a very rich

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a portal he

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boleskin house to do it

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in the islands for whatever reason maybe

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lay lines i don't know one

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a natural portal and it's not the same

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nessie actually being a supernatural

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interdimensional portal uh what are your

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i am big fan of nick redfern uh

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absolute legend i love reading what he

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kelpie is that is a shape-shifting

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in and around the locks or as you guys

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of nessy story attached to it we've got

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lawn is that one of the

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loads of sightings that you'll be

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photo whether it was fake or real

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we've seen the humps we've seen various

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photos of something in the lock over the

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my family if i take you back around the

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world war one and one of my

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relatives was involved in a very famous

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sighting indeed and we only found out it

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was a famous sighting recently

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because my brother started to track back

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the family tree

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and he came across old newspaper

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cuttings

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of the sighting that my family we always

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tell this story

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and the story as i remember it when i

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my great great grandfather probably

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another great on the top of that

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going fishing going playing one day and

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i remember it was going to work

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it turns out they're a lot younger but

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they were down at the mouth of the walk

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and what they'd seen was a horse-like

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figure

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coming down off the hill then i just

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walked straight into the water

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we have this on land entity going into

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monster sightings long

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something

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something large under the water no big

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various descriptions together is if

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definitely one that's interesting you

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really believe i've ever heard that that

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though you know when you hear about the

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kelpie you think about this

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horse-shaped cryptid or shape-shifter or

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whatever

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that people would jump on top of and

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go into the lake or the water and and

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drown on top of this creature i mean you

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know that's what it's supposed to be

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uh the lore behind it the legend behind

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it

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i'll give you a description here this

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comes from historic

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uk the kelp is a shape-shifting aquatic

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spirit of scottish legend

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and its name may derive from the

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scottish gaelic words

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kael pick or culprit meaning hefer

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or colt and kelpies are said to haunt

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rivers and streams

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usually in the shape of a horse

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and i know it might be a stretch for

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some people out there to say well

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that's not the loch ness monster kev but

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this is a shape-shifting

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yeah um now if you go back to the

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history of

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messi um this goes back to the irish

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saint saint columba and uh

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apparently he had threatened threatened

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this beast to

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not hurt or attack an individual

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computer

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he'd sent one of his um one of his hands

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across the lock to fetch a boat and on

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his way across the walk

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and he was met by this great leviathan

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type

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monster and the priest

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prayed it down crammed it down subdued

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it

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now i i i i get what people are gonna

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say

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convenient way to scare the light

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to get them to turn away from their

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druidic pictures way

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and come to christianity i totally

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appreciate that

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i'm not naive there certainly could be

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an element to that

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i also sent you something today an image

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um of a carving on a stone

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that was found by loch ness

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and near archer castle and what you see

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on

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it's something very serpent

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like at the top and then there's a line

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going through the middle of it and then

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at the bottom you've got two

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interconnecting

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circles now the pects they were always

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drawing

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circles circles within circles but i

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think the interesting thing

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is the snake-like creature scotland is

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not known for

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any crazy snakes one

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it's not we're stepping over snakes

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everywhere we go

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so what was it they were trying to

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depict

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you know if you look at that stone

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slightly in a different way

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you see a long neck and then you see a

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hump

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above the line and i was wondering you

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know i was thinking to myself

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i wonder if that's meant to be the

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surface of the water

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that's what i would think yeah yeah so

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the pects before saint columba got there

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they were already leaving messages in

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stone

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about something significant enough lawn

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to go and carve

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this magnificent piece of work here you

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know

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place called

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balnahan house and it's near drum the

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rocket

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oh i know what you're talking about yes

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right everyone

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thinks of the castle on loch ness that's

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akirt castle

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that's from the rocket right there and

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then stone was

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just at one of the houses on the banks

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of loch ness

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and as i was telling you before the show

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there's a strong

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peckish connection up there were clever

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cairns right

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a lot of people listening probably

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watched the tv show outlander

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and then they've got the stone and

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that's a stargate

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but well that's maybe i don't know 10 15

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minutes drive from loch ness

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but one of the things that most people

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don't know

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about loch ness is that not only does it

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have a monster in there

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allegedly but did you know lon

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that there are concentric

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stone circles 70 feet below

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the surface of loch ness and they were

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back i only them is thanks to nick

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redfern actually that i heard about this

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um it was a mit professor called

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marty klein he was the inventor of the

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side scan sonar he helped find titanic

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things like that

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and when he went looking for the lock

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and it was an mit

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study that was done in the 70s and they

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seen a couple of interesting things they

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got photographs but the thing that blew

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everyone away

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was something that went on to be called

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klein eng

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and like i say 70 feet below the surface

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you had

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four or five massive stone

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circular monuments very similar

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to what is nearby at clavichairns

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now that hints that way back in the day

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then around the fifth

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sixth a.d that the level of the lock was

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substantially lower there was obviously

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human activity that is now under water

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but

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you know what's really strange about

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that storyline

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you would think all of the locals would

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know

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about the occasion when an american team

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of scientists came to the lock 1976

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it was the year i was born it was a

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record hot summer that year

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so it was already a summer that stood

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out

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no locals have any idea everyone i speak

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to

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they've got no idea what i'm talking

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about when i tell them about kleinhenge

442
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now that for me just adds a level of

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weirdness to it because it's a small

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community up there

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and you'd imagine if this had been a

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story at the time and i'm not saying it

447
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wasn't a story at the time

448
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but for some reason it got down played

449
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when the information went to the

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university of edinburgh

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and when the scientists from mit went

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home

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all talk of any stone circles in loch

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ness

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was clamped down on it just disappears

456
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nobody wants to talk about it it's a

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weird one

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yeah it is unusual yeah but i read from

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big shout out to nick he had wrote about

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that

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up again if you look below the serpent

462
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um

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and the two circles connected you know

464
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that almost looks like a wormhole to me

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yeah i mean i often look at these um

466
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pictograms and things like that

467
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petroglyph and and

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it does you can definitely see a portal

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type

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our minds think portal one whether the

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pects who are depicting a portal

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or not it's for our interpretation isn't

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it

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yeah yeah that's interesting i had never

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seen that before

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um see i think you put all of these

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things together and remember aleister

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crowley was

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like reading manuscripts and

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books that the general public we don't

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get access to

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so potentially and again it's

483
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speculatory but potentially he read

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about some ancient knowledge

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ancient information about perhaps a

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known portal

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up in that area and if you're gonna do a

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magic working where you're trying to

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open a portal

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i don't know i'm not a master magician

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but that'd be the perfect place to go

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right well i tell you if anybody has

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watched like you said outlander i mean

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you know you've got the portal in the

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stone circle and other odd

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things going on when she travels back in

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time

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and uh you know it well you know the

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whole show itself

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uh just like the colladen scene i that

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fascinated me

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and uh you know i have heard for years

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about colladen

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uh for those who don't know where

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colladen is it's it's

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just east of inverness which is the

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northern

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uh part of uh draw a triangle between

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loch ness colladen and clavic irons

510
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where the standing stones are is that

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right yeah

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yeah colloden battlefield

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that same like gettysburg i would

514
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imagine

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yeah it's a feeling it's just an

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atmosphere

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you know even to this day everybody who

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i have talked to who has been there

519
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has been greatly affected by um

520
00:20:48,630 --> 00:20:46,720
the energy there is like they state and

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like i feel when i go to gettysburg

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it's palpable yeah uh you know there's

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people here hear things uh i i know the

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one monument

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uh the rule the tower monument that's

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there

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lot of other strange

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phenomena basically the places on you

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00:21:13,590 --> 00:21:10,159
know the battlefield itself

530
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was a more wasn't it yeah yeah just a

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big long

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field and then you know there's the

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reports of people

534
00:21:25,190 --> 00:21:21,600
hearing like the battle is still going

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00:21:29,110 --> 00:21:25,200
people they report smelling you know

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00:21:31,510 --> 00:21:29,120
the smells it's yeah

537
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i wonder what causes that lawn i think

538
00:21:35,110 --> 00:21:32,400
all of that

539
00:21:36,789 --> 00:21:35,120
trauma all that bloodshed in one

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location in a short period of

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time it just it it scars the place

542
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doesn't it

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yeah i tell you you know like i i have

544
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talked about

545
00:21:51,909 --> 00:21:48,640
so many times before you know with uh

546
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with my experiences at gettysburg it's

547
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uh and i i've been to other battlefields

548
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where i've experienced it as well i

549
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tatum and especially because of the the

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00:22:03,270 --> 00:22:01,600
large amount of death that occurred

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00:22:06,710 --> 00:22:03,280
there uh

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these these places get imprinted

553
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and uh i mean for many centuries now

554
00:22:13,830 --> 00:22:13,120
colladen was that was back in the 18th

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century

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and uh you know with the uh the jack of

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bites

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fighting the uh fighting the british and

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uh you know the amount of death and

560
00:22:29,430 --> 00:22:27,039
destruction that cause cause there

561
00:22:30,789 --> 00:22:29,440
i'm quite sure imprinted the the whole

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area

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00:22:34,789 --> 00:22:33,600
yeah um for augustus there's uh the

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kings in

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bed and breakfast and that's where

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00:22:41,669 --> 00:22:38,840
bonnie and charlie actually hid

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um yeah when he was on his way when he

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was on the run

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so you've got a lot of history up there

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as well as the loch ness thing going on

571
00:22:56,630 --> 00:22:52,799
um hauntings you've got people that

572
00:22:59,990 --> 00:22:56,640
partake in ouija boards and it goes

573
00:23:02,630 --> 00:23:00,000
crazy totally crazy and now

574
00:23:04,630 --> 00:23:02,640
you've got the whole um spectacle of

575
00:23:06,830 --> 00:23:04,640
buleskin house been turned into a

576
00:23:11,029 --> 00:23:06,840
spiritual retreat

577
00:23:13,830 --> 00:23:11,039
where the teachings of aleister crowley

578
00:23:15,990 --> 00:23:13,840
are allegedly going to be taught again

579
00:23:19,590 --> 00:23:16,000
rituals will be carried out

580
00:23:23,750 --> 00:23:19,600
you know i read that recently yeah

581
00:23:25,990 --> 00:23:23,760
the locals are up in arms and then

582
00:23:27,830 --> 00:23:26,000
people that are restoring the property

583
00:23:29,830 --> 00:23:27,840
the bulescan foundation

584
00:23:31,430 --> 00:23:29,840
they made a big song and dance about how

585
00:23:32,310 --> 00:23:31,440
well we're nothing to do with aleister

586
00:23:34,710 --> 00:23:32,320
crowley

587
00:23:36,070 --> 00:23:34,720
we just want to restore this once great

588
00:23:39,190 --> 00:23:36,080
edwardian property

589
00:23:40,310 --> 00:23:39,200
that's but it's once glory all right

590
00:23:41,830 --> 00:23:40,320
fair enough

591
00:23:43,669 --> 00:23:41,840
but then you find out that one of the

592
00:23:46,230 --> 00:23:43,679
people on the bellescan

593
00:23:47,990 --> 00:23:46,240
foundation board he's written books

594
00:23:51,110 --> 00:23:48,000
about aleister crowley

595
00:23:53,750 --> 00:23:51,120
right so you know and then i think the

596
00:23:55,830 --> 00:23:53,760
locals because they're still uh

597
00:23:57,909 --> 00:23:55,840
you've got the free presbyterian church

598
00:23:59,909 --> 00:23:57,919
up there and still

599
00:24:02,070 --> 00:23:59,919
quite religious for the the times we're

600
00:24:02,950 --> 00:24:02,080
living in now on when you when i think

601
00:24:04,870 --> 00:24:02,960
about it

602
00:24:06,549 --> 00:24:04,880
and they're obviously that they're up in

603
00:24:08,470 --> 00:24:06,559
arms so

604
00:24:09,909 --> 00:24:08,480
yeah we'll see how this goes but not one

605
00:24:13,190 --> 00:24:09,919
but two fires

606
00:24:16,549 --> 00:24:13,200
at burlesque and house right

607
00:24:18,950 --> 00:24:16,559
yeah yeah i remember the time when uh

608
00:24:20,230 --> 00:24:18,960
jimmy page led zeppelin owned the place

609
00:24:21,909 --> 00:24:20,240
and they were

610
00:24:23,750 --> 00:24:21,919
i guess they had a retreat there

611
00:24:25,430 --> 00:24:23,760
occasionally but uh

612
00:24:27,909 --> 00:24:25,440
there was a lot of controversy about

613
00:24:29,669 --> 00:24:27,919
that as well

614
00:24:31,190 --> 00:24:29,679
yeah a couple of people that owned that

615
00:24:33,190 --> 00:24:31,200
and they took their own lives

616
00:24:34,390 --> 00:24:33,200
i was reading about that i am not

617
00:24:37,269 --> 00:24:34,400
actually

618
00:24:38,390 --> 00:24:37,279
but i went there with my brother and our

619
00:24:42,630 --> 00:24:38,400
friend

620
00:24:45,750 --> 00:24:42,640
it was um 2016 just after the first fire

621
00:24:46,549 --> 00:24:45,760
we went in there like i don't know zach

622
00:24:48,710 --> 00:24:46,559
begins the

623
00:24:50,310 --> 00:24:48,720
ghost hunters or something charging in

624
00:24:52,310 --> 00:24:50,320
there thought we were uh

625
00:24:54,630 --> 00:24:52,320
we thought we knew what we were doing

626
00:24:57,269 --> 00:24:54,640
calling out spirits and

627
00:24:57,990 --> 00:24:57,279
you know long within six months of me my

628
00:25:01,350 --> 00:24:58,000
brother

629
00:25:03,830 --> 00:25:01,360
and my friend doing that all three of us

630
00:25:05,350 --> 00:25:03,840
i had a couple of heart attacks and he

631
00:25:06,870 --> 00:25:05,360
had something going on with his health

632
00:25:08,230 --> 00:25:06,880
my friend and something was health as

633
00:25:10,549 --> 00:25:08,240
well

634
00:25:12,830 --> 00:25:10,559
and not even just our group because

635
00:25:16,070 --> 00:25:12,840
other groups that went there

636
00:25:18,390 --> 00:25:16,080
um they all had like

637
00:25:19,669 --> 00:25:18,400
i don't want to call it a curse but

638
00:25:21,990 --> 00:25:19,679
there was like bad luck

639
00:25:24,470 --> 00:25:22,000
bad juju attached itself to people that

640
00:25:26,549 --> 00:25:24,480
were was going near that property

641
00:25:28,310 --> 00:25:26,559
now i know people might say oh come on

642
00:25:30,870 --> 00:25:28,320
kev that's just

643
00:25:32,070 --> 00:25:30,880
your own imagination but it could very

644
00:25:34,310 --> 00:25:32,080
well be

645
00:25:36,230 --> 00:25:34,320
however you can't get away from the fact

646
00:25:38,870 --> 00:25:36,240
that the other thing that we all have in

647
00:25:42,230 --> 00:25:38,880
common apart from having an imagination

648
00:25:45,510 --> 00:25:42,240
is that we all went to belesco house so

649
00:25:52,549 --> 00:25:49,029
i have talked about psychic attacks and

650
00:25:55,110 --> 00:25:52,559
you know people being um

651
00:25:55,990 --> 00:25:55,120
having attachments from you know places

652
00:25:59,110 --> 00:25:56,000
like where there's

653
00:26:02,390 --> 00:25:59,120
lots of uh different energies and

654
00:26:04,310 --> 00:26:02,400
uh i'm quite sure the energy there isn't

655
00:26:07,190 --> 00:26:04,320
the greatest and if you

656
00:26:10,149 --> 00:26:07,200
i guess if you perturb the spirits and i

657
00:26:13,029 --> 00:26:10,159
i don't believe in going into a place

658
00:26:14,710 --> 00:26:13,039
and and start calling out and agitating

659
00:26:17,990 --> 00:26:14,720
crazy law knowledge

660
00:26:21,430 --> 00:26:20,310
you know that same i ended up having to

661
00:26:23,990 --> 00:26:21,440
get bill

662
00:26:25,029 --> 00:26:24,000
to do a kind of deliverance for me yeah

663
00:26:28,470 --> 00:26:25,039
yeah

664
00:26:29,830 --> 00:26:28,480
admit but

665
00:26:32,230 --> 00:26:29,840
to anyone out there i wouldn't tell

666
00:26:34,390 --> 00:26:32,240
anyone what to do but you know like lon

667
00:26:36,470 --> 00:26:34,400
says you can't go into these places just

668
00:26:37,269 --> 00:26:36,480
half baked you gotta really be prepared

669
00:26:41,190 --> 00:26:37,279
and

670
00:26:46,549 --> 00:26:41,200
don't

671
00:26:48,630 --> 00:26:46,559
yeah it it normally causes problems

672
00:26:49,669 --> 00:26:48,640
at the end of the one right it's like

673
00:26:51,510 --> 00:26:49,679
when people

674
00:26:53,669 --> 00:26:51,520
this is what gets me this is like when

675
00:26:56,630 --> 00:26:53,679
people will come to me

676
00:26:58,230 --> 00:26:56,640
and say look i i have an attachment i

677
00:27:00,310 --> 00:26:58,240
know i've got an attachment i don't know

678
00:27:03,029 --> 00:27:00,320
where i got it from

679
00:27:05,110 --> 00:27:03,039
and the first thing i ask them is uh you

680
00:27:07,029 --> 00:27:05,120
you do paranormal investigations don't

681
00:27:10,149 --> 00:27:07,039
you oh yeah

682
00:27:12,230 --> 00:27:10,159
why why how you know that uh

683
00:27:13,669 --> 00:27:12,240
well you know the problem was you didn't

684
00:27:15,430 --> 00:27:13,679
protect yourself

685
00:27:17,750 --> 00:27:15,440
and you know these people to go into

686
00:27:20,389 --> 00:27:17,760
cemeteries and stuff and start

687
00:27:21,909 --> 00:27:20,399
calling on the spirits that are into a

688
00:27:25,350 --> 00:27:21,919
well-known

689
00:27:27,750 --> 00:27:25,360
uh location that's haunted and start

690
00:27:29,590 --> 00:27:27,760
you know stirring the pot that that's

691
00:27:32,470 --> 00:27:29,600
going to lead to problems i've seen

692
00:27:33,430 --> 00:27:32,480
it so many times yeah you know quite

693
00:27:35,909 --> 00:27:33,440
honestly

694
00:27:36,710 --> 00:27:35,919
and and i joke about it but it's not

695
00:27:39,029 --> 00:27:36,720
funny

696
00:27:39,909 --> 00:27:39,039
i say half the people who have come to

697
00:27:44,230 --> 00:27:39,919
me

698
00:27:46,310 --> 00:27:44,240
issues

699
00:27:47,510 --> 00:27:46,320
or somebody that's involved with the

700
00:27:49,269 --> 00:27:47,520
paranormal

701
00:27:51,990 --> 00:27:49,279
well you know i'm funny you should say

702
00:27:54,789 --> 00:27:52,000
that again shout out to nick redfern

703
00:27:57,909 --> 00:27:54,799
but he had kind of um taken a look at i

704
00:28:00,789 --> 00:27:57,919
think it was a black-eyed kid phenomenon

705
00:28:01,990 --> 00:28:00,799
and one thing that all of the victims

706
00:28:04,470 --> 00:28:02,000
had in common or all

707
00:28:06,389 --> 00:28:04,480
of the witnesses had in common was they

708
00:28:09,110 --> 00:28:06,399
had either recently got into

709
00:28:12,230 --> 00:28:09,120
the occult or the paranormal or they

710
00:28:14,630 --> 00:28:12,240
already had a long time interest in it

711
00:28:16,630 --> 00:28:14,640
so it wasn't something new to them and i

712
00:28:17,190 --> 00:28:16,640
kind of think it's like don't stick your

713
00:28:20,149 --> 00:28:17,200
head too

714
00:28:22,230 --> 00:28:20,159
far above the trenches because then you

715
00:28:24,630 --> 00:28:22,240
must be like a beacon like a light

716
00:28:26,789 --> 00:28:24,640
in that spiritual realm and you're just

717
00:28:29,110 --> 00:28:26,799
lighting them towards you you know

718
00:28:29,830 --> 00:28:29,120
yeah you know it does attract uh it

719
00:28:32,950 --> 00:28:29,840
doesn't crack

720
00:28:34,789 --> 00:28:32,960
problems uh that's for sure um yeah what

721
00:28:35,110 --> 00:28:34,799
you tell me there that doesn't surprise

722
00:28:37,269 --> 00:28:35,120
me

723
00:28:38,630 --> 00:28:37,279
at all you know that's what's

724
00:28:41,909 --> 00:28:38,640
interesting

725
00:28:44,389 --> 00:28:41,919
about uh well you know

726
00:28:45,830 --> 00:28:44,399
great britain england countries of

727
00:28:49,430 --> 00:28:45,840
scotland wales and

728
00:28:53,269 --> 00:28:49,440
ireland you have all these these areas

729
00:28:56,950 --> 00:28:53,279
that have seen a lot of activity

730
00:29:01,750 --> 00:28:56,960
for many centuries you know and even

731
00:29:06,789 --> 00:29:04,870
i i you know people talk about

732
00:29:08,789 --> 00:29:06,799
things that happen in these areas just

733
00:29:10,470 --> 00:29:08,799
like scotland in england

734
00:29:12,230 --> 00:29:10,480
well there's no wonder i mean there's

735
00:29:14,950 --> 00:29:12,240
just so much energy

736
00:29:16,789 --> 00:29:14,960
there so much history we know most of

737
00:29:19,269 --> 00:29:16,799
the history we don't know all of it

738
00:29:21,190 --> 00:29:19,279
but we know some of it and a lot of it

739
00:29:26,630 --> 00:29:21,200
wasn't good

740
00:29:29,669 --> 00:29:26,640
uh you know so um

741
00:29:31,669 --> 00:29:29,679
and everything else and wars

742
00:29:33,750 --> 00:29:31,679
there's a lot of imprints and there's a

743
00:29:35,590 --> 00:29:33,760
lot of energy floating around

744
00:29:37,110 --> 00:29:35,600
big time big things like i was saying to

745
00:29:39,269 --> 00:29:37,120
you as well um

746
00:29:40,230 --> 00:29:39,279
different attitude on this side of the

747
00:29:42,470 --> 00:29:40,240
pond

748
00:29:44,149 --> 00:29:42,480
and when it comes to the reporting of

749
00:29:46,230 --> 00:29:44,159
some of these stories when it's the

750
00:29:47,590 --> 00:29:46,240
bigfoot or loch ness monster or

751
00:29:50,310 --> 00:29:47,600
something like that

752
00:29:51,510 --> 00:29:50,320
and um i was telling you just recently

753
00:29:54,310 --> 00:29:51,520
we had

754
00:29:55,909 --> 00:29:54,320
another loch ness monster sighting and

755
00:29:58,470 --> 00:29:55,919
i've got a couple of for well we've got

756
00:30:00,870 --> 00:29:58,480
an r4 we can take a look at in a moment

757
00:30:01,669 --> 00:30:00,880
of one of the the better sightings i

758
00:30:04,950 --> 00:30:01,679
think

759
00:30:05,909 --> 00:30:04,960
but then we had a guy that allegedly saw

760
00:30:08,630 --> 00:30:05,919
a big foot

761
00:30:09,510 --> 00:30:08,640
up near inverness as well near colladon

762
00:30:12,549 --> 00:30:09,520
actually

763
00:30:13,750 --> 00:30:12,559
and got hit by a fish and that was in

764
00:30:15,350 --> 00:30:13,760
the local media

765
00:30:16,710 --> 00:30:15,360
that made it into the news and that's

766
00:30:17,430 --> 00:30:16,720
what i was saying to you before the show

767
00:30:19,909 --> 00:30:17,440
isn't it

768
00:30:21,750 --> 00:30:19,919
the same we just kind of talk about it

769
00:30:23,830 --> 00:30:21,760
we take it for granted it's just a part

770
00:30:25,830 --> 00:30:23,840
of life here

771
00:30:28,149 --> 00:30:25,840
and it's just an everyday occurrence

772
00:30:30,870 --> 00:30:28,159
because we've got this big long history

773
00:30:32,789 --> 00:30:30,880
we've got all these things going on and

774
00:30:34,389 --> 00:30:32,799
over in america it doesn't really work

775
00:30:36,230 --> 00:30:34,399
like that it's not the same attitude at

776
00:30:39,990 --> 00:30:36,240
all on is it

777
00:30:42,070 --> 00:30:40,000
no you know we our history is you know

778
00:30:44,710 --> 00:30:42,080
of course there were indigenous people

779
00:30:47,190 --> 00:30:44,720
before us but our known history

780
00:30:48,870 --> 00:30:47,200
is only several centuries and that's it

781
00:30:50,870 --> 00:30:48,880
and um

782
00:30:53,750 --> 00:30:50,880
you know we can understand when we go to

783
00:30:56,230 --> 00:30:53,760
battlefields or places where there were

784
00:30:58,950 --> 00:30:56,240
you know lots of death and such you know

785
00:31:02,230 --> 00:30:58,960
we can understand the energy being there

786
00:31:06,470 --> 00:31:02,240
but as where you are uh

787
00:31:09,029 --> 00:31:06,480
it's just so much that um

788
00:31:09,669 --> 00:31:09,039
you know you people that don't aren't

789
00:31:12,149 --> 00:31:09,679
from there

790
00:31:12,789 --> 00:31:12,159
don't really understand it you know you

791
00:31:17,029 --> 00:31:12,799
talked about

792
00:31:19,190 --> 00:31:17,039
uh bigfoot

793
00:31:20,789 --> 00:31:19,200
and you sit around cladding and around

794
00:31:24,789 --> 00:31:20,799
inverness you know

795
00:31:27,110 --> 00:31:24,799
if there is a bigfoot in scotland

796
00:31:28,470 --> 00:31:27,120
or in the british isles if there is a

797
00:31:30,870 --> 00:31:28,480
bigfoot

798
00:31:33,430 --> 00:31:30,880
there's no doubt to me that it would be

799
00:31:33,990 --> 00:31:33,440
attracted to areas like cladding or loch

800
00:31:37,029 --> 00:31:34,000
ness or

801
00:31:38,710 --> 00:31:37,039
areas where there is a lot of spirit

802
00:31:39,830 --> 00:31:38,720
energy you know people talk about

803
00:31:41,669 --> 00:31:39,840
cryptids

804
00:31:43,269 --> 00:31:41,679
here in the united states in north

805
00:31:46,389 --> 00:31:43,279
america

806
00:31:49,350 --> 00:31:46,399
that seem to be attracted to cemeteries

807
00:31:50,710 --> 00:31:49,360
seem to be attracted to areas where

808
00:31:55,509 --> 00:31:50,720
there has been death

809
00:31:58,389 --> 00:31:55,519
or areas where there is lingering energy

810
00:31:59,269 --> 00:31:58,399
i get reports about that all the time

811
00:32:01,190 --> 00:31:59,279
now

812
00:32:02,470 --> 00:32:01,200
if you're looking into what's going on

813
00:32:06,070 --> 00:32:02,480
over there if there

814
00:32:08,310 --> 00:32:06,080
are these cryptids in scotland

815
00:32:09,990 --> 00:32:08,320
or british isles why would it you know

816
00:32:12,630 --> 00:32:10,000
why would it be any different why would

817
00:32:14,710 --> 00:32:12,640
they not be attracted to these areas

818
00:32:16,789 --> 00:32:14,720
a very good point and i was saying to

819
00:32:19,110 --> 00:32:16,799
you as well usually the big cats

820
00:32:21,110 --> 00:32:19,120
that's our usual kind of thing that gets

821
00:32:23,509 --> 00:32:21,120
spotted all the time yeah

822
00:32:24,630 --> 00:32:23,519
that bigfoot the alleged bigfoot

823
00:32:27,029 --> 00:32:24,640
sighting that really

824
00:32:28,070 --> 00:32:27,039
caught my attention because here we had

825
00:32:30,070 --> 00:32:28,080
a guy and

826
00:32:31,990 --> 00:32:30,080
he lives right on the edge of this

827
00:32:34,149 --> 00:32:32,000
wooded area that he went

828
00:32:36,310 --> 00:32:34,159
he knows all the noises you know knows

829
00:32:37,830 --> 00:32:36,320
all he knows his way about the place

830
00:32:40,230 --> 00:32:37,840
he's not an idiot

831
00:32:41,509 --> 00:32:40,240
and all of a sudden whack right in the

832
00:32:44,389 --> 00:32:41,519
back of the head

833
00:32:45,909 --> 00:32:44,399
looks round and there's like a salmon at

834
00:32:49,190 --> 00:32:45,919
his feet

835
00:32:52,710 --> 00:32:49,200
now the the seed the seas wait

836
00:32:54,470 --> 00:32:52,720
murray firth is way off so when he turns

837
00:32:57,029 --> 00:32:54,480
around he also says that he's seen

838
00:32:59,430 --> 00:32:57,039
something about seven or eight feet tall

839
00:33:01,350 --> 00:32:59,440
but just dark and moving away in the

840
00:33:04,389 --> 00:33:01,360
opposite direction

841
00:33:07,029 --> 00:33:04,399
and this is a guy he describes himself

842
00:33:08,789 --> 00:33:07,039
as not being into things like nessie not

843
00:33:10,630 --> 00:33:08,799
been into the paranormal

844
00:33:13,190 --> 00:33:10,640
but at the end of the day what he seen

845
00:33:16,870 --> 00:33:13,200
was a seven or eight foot tall

846
00:33:19,029 --> 00:33:16,880
dark figure and that he seen it

847
00:33:20,149 --> 00:33:19,039
immediately after he got hit in the back

848
00:33:22,710 --> 00:33:20,159
by a salmon

849
00:33:23,269 --> 00:33:22,720
i know it's funny it's funny but they're

850
00:33:26,070 --> 00:33:23,279
trying to

851
00:33:27,990 --> 00:33:26,080
explain it away as well maybe an osprey

852
00:33:29,669 --> 00:33:28,000
dropped a fish on your head

853
00:33:31,669 --> 00:33:29,679
he said well maybe it did but that

854
00:33:33,029 --> 00:33:31,679
doesn't explain the seven or eight foot

855
00:33:34,070 --> 00:33:33,039
tall thing i've seen going into the

856
00:33:35,830 --> 00:33:34,080
bushes

857
00:33:37,990 --> 00:33:35,840
so i don't know what was going on there

858
00:33:39,750 --> 00:33:38,000
at all you know that's interesting

859
00:33:41,190 --> 00:33:39,760
that kind of reminds me a bit about the

860
00:33:44,389 --> 00:33:41,200
big gray man of

861
00:33:47,190 --> 00:33:44,399
ben mcdoug you know with the uh

862
00:33:48,389 --> 00:33:47,200
the legends is a legend or is it

863
00:33:50,830 --> 00:33:48,399
actually

864
00:33:52,870 --> 00:33:50,840
a bigfoot like creature i mean who knows

865
00:33:56,789 --> 00:33:52,880
but uh

866
00:33:59,830 --> 00:33:56,799
this supposed shadow or

867
00:34:00,789 --> 00:33:59,840
maybe a spirit or maybe it is maybe it

868
00:34:04,630 --> 00:34:00,799
is corporal

869
00:34:08,790 --> 00:34:04,640
i don't know but uh that story

870
00:34:11,510 --> 00:34:08,800
fascinates me uh i mean is it this

871
00:34:12,869 --> 00:34:11,520
mountain spirit that manifests

872
00:34:16,470 --> 00:34:12,879
occasionally

873
00:34:17,430 --> 00:34:16,480
when a man or someone goes into its area

874
00:34:20,230 --> 00:34:17,440
i don't know

875
00:34:20,790 --> 00:34:20,240
but it's it's a great story and you know

876
00:34:24,069 --> 00:34:20,800
and

877
00:34:24,550 --> 00:34:24,079
ever since i have heard that i mean i i

878
00:34:27,829 --> 00:34:24,560
really ha

879
00:34:31,030 --> 00:34:27,839
i i don't have much doubt now

880
00:34:32,950 --> 00:34:31,040
that there are but maybe people called

881
00:34:35,990 --> 00:34:32,960
years and years ago as feral

882
00:34:39,669 --> 00:34:36,000
wild men or something in in

883
00:34:41,430 --> 00:34:39,679
in scotland or in great britain i mean

884
00:34:43,109 --> 00:34:41,440
over the past few years we've been

885
00:34:46,069 --> 00:34:43,119
having more and more people

886
00:34:47,750 --> 00:34:46,079
citing uh supposed bigfoot like

887
00:34:50,550 --> 00:34:47,760
creatures

888
00:34:52,230 --> 00:34:50,560
in the great britain so i i don't know i

889
00:34:54,629 --> 00:34:52,240
mean what's your take on that

890
00:34:56,069 --> 00:34:54,639
well i know them to be honest up until a

891
00:34:59,270 --> 00:34:56,079
couple of years ago

892
00:35:00,870 --> 00:34:59,280
um i had no idea that there was a uk

893
00:35:03,270 --> 00:35:00,880
bigfoot community

894
00:35:04,230 --> 00:35:03,280
and they call them the wild men over

895
00:35:06,790 --> 00:35:04,240
here

896
00:35:08,150 --> 00:35:06,800
kind of them more commonly i know

897
00:35:10,710 --> 00:35:08,160
there's an irish

898
00:35:12,390 --> 00:35:10,720
bigfoot association uh i seen them

899
00:35:13,910 --> 00:35:12,400
getting interviewed on a show last

900
00:35:17,030 --> 00:35:13,920
weekend

901
00:35:21,190 --> 00:35:17,040
to be honest one i had no idea

902
00:35:24,230 --> 00:35:21,200
the frequency at which people do report

903
00:35:25,589 --> 00:35:24,240
these type of entities in the uk um

904
00:35:28,150 --> 00:35:25,599
and when you look at the uk

905
00:35:31,270 --> 00:35:28,160
geographically the environment

906
00:35:33,030 --> 00:35:31,280
for me it's like the pacific northwest

907
00:35:35,510 --> 00:35:33,040
and that's somewhere where the bigfoot

908
00:35:38,550 --> 00:35:35,520
hangs out lots of trees here

909
00:35:39,829 --> 00:35:38,560
lots of hills lots of them lakes it

910
00:35:43,190 --> 00:35:39,839
would be perfect

911
00:35:45,270 --> 00:35:43,200
so i don't see why we wouldn't expect to

912
00:35:48,470 --> 00:35:45,280
see the bigfoot here

913
00:35:50,550 --> 00:35:48,480
you know the climate in the uh pacific

914
00:35:53,030 --> 00:35:50,560
northwest is very similar

915
00:35:55,270 --> 00:35:53,040
yeah to the climate in great britain and

916
00:35:58,550 --> 00:35:55,280
especially up north where you're at

917
00:36:00,310 --> 00:35:58,560
yeah that's right i mean you know

918
00:36:01,510 --> 00:36:00,320
i don't know you know we've got

919
00:36:02,470 --> 00:36:01,520
mountains as well we've got the

920
00:36:05,430 --> 00:36:02,480
cairngorms

921
00:36:06,310 --> 00:36:05,440
and jordan rose they're over 3000 feet

922
00:36:08,470 --> 00:36:06,320
so

923
00:36:09,750 --> 00:36:08,480
you look at over the himalayas you've

924
00:36:11,670 --> 00:36:09,760
got the yeti

925
00:36:12,870 --> 00:36:11,680
so you find these things in mountainous

926
00:36:16,310 --> 00:36:12,880
regions

927
00:36:18,310 --> 00:36:16,320
now there's the there is one

928
00:36:20,470 --> 00:36:18,320
a couple of stories about something

929
00:36:21,990 --> 00:36:20,480
obviously on the cairngorms whether that

930
00:36:24,950 --> 00:36:22,000
is a

931
00:36:26,710 --> 00:36:24,960
uh bigfoot or something different i

932
00:36:29,750 --> 00:36:26,720
don't know i'm kind of up in the air

933
00:36:30,390 --> 00:36:29,760
i can go either way on that but we've

934
00:36:32,710 --> 00:36:30,400
also

935
00:36:33,670 --> 00:36:32,720
got lots of other things that happen

936
00:36:37,829 --> 00:36:33,680
over here as well

937
00:36:40,310 --> 00:36:37,839
hunting wise story i've told a few times

938
00:36:42,390 --> 00:36:40,320
but i'm sure it'll blow you away

939
00:36:43,349 --> 00:36:42,400
and it goes back to like world war ii

940
00:36:46,310 --> 00:36:43,359
this time

941
00:36:47,750 --> 00:36:46,320
and it was a local dance in one of the

942
00:36:49,430 --> 00:36:47,760
village halls

943
00:36:51,589 --> 00:36:49,440
and everyone knows everyone else up

944
00:36:54,230 --> 00:36:51,599
there alone and it's all kind of

945
00:36:57,109 --> 00:36:54,240
different time back in the 50s you know

946
00:36:59,510 --> 00:36:57,119
a bit more gentlemanly and ladylike and

947
00:37:00,950 --> 00:36:59,520
you'd ask somebody to the dance or you

948
00:37:02,790 --> 00:37:00,960
have the women on one side of the hall

949
00:37:03,910 --> 00:37:02,800
the men on the other and it was a very

950
00:37:07,190 --> 00:37:03,920
kind of um

951
00:37:10,230 --> 00:37:07,200
classy affair and then there was this

952
00:37:12,470 --> 00:37:10,240
gentleman at this stranger

953
00:37:14,150 --> 00:37:12,480
that was at the dance this night and he

954
00:37:14,870 --> 00:37:14,160
was in the full kind of highland dress

955
00:37:18,710 --> 00:37:14,880
he had the kill

956
00:37:20,550 --> 00:37:18,720
on looking absolutely phenomenal

957
00:37:22,310 --> 00:37:20,560
all the women in the hall they were all

958
00:37:22,950 --> 00:37:22,320
falling over themselves because he was a

959
00:37:25,190 --> 00:37:22,960
gorgeous

960
00:37:25,990 --> 00:37:25,200
piece of fresh meat in the village

961
00:37:27,589 --> 00:37:26,000
basically

962
00:37:29,030 --> 00:37:27,599
all the guys they were wanting to fight

963
00:37:30,230 --> 00:37:29,040
one because all the girls were looking

964
00:37:33,670 --> 00:37:30,240
at him

965
00:37:34,470 --> 00:37:33,680
but long story short one of my gran's

966
00:37:37,510 --> 00:37:34,480
friends

967
00:37:39,430 --> 00:37:37,520
got dancing with this guy

968
00:37:40,950 --> 00:37:39,440
and everything was going great

969
00:37:43,190 --> 00:37:40,960
everything was perfect

970
00:37:44,150 --> 00:37:43,200
she was obviously over the moon here she

971
00:37:47,510 --> 00:37:44,160
was with

972
00:37:48,630 --> 00:37:47,520
the catch of the night and then the band

973
00:37:51,270 --> 00:37:48,640
stopped playing

974
00:37:52,870 --> 00:37:51,280
and the dance finished and that's when

975
00:37:54,470 --> 00:37:52,880
all went horribly wrong because the

976
00:37:57,829 --> 00:37:54,480
lights went on

977
00:38:00,710 --> 00:37:57,839
and she looked at him

978
00:38:03,109 --> 00:38:00,720
and the way my mom and my gran told the

979
00:38:05,510 --> 00:38:03,119
story was she doesn't know why but

980
00:38:07,190 --> 00:38:05,520
she felt she had to look down and when

981
00:38:10,230 --> 00:38:07,200
she looked down

982
00:38:14,390 --> 00:38:10,240
the dude she'd been dancing with had

983
00:38:17,270 --> 00:38:14,400
clothing feet and legs

984
00:38:18,710 --> 00:38:17,280
like an animal now that sounds like a

985
00:38:21,190 --> 00:38:18,720
story

986
00:38:22,790 --> 00:38:21,200
but i've seen people that were either

987
00:38:25,349 --> 00:38:22,800
witness to that

988
00:38:27,030 --> 00:38:25,359
or had been told at first hand and my

989
00:38:29,030 --> 00:38:27,040
mom talks about this as well because

990
00:38:32,069 --> 00:38:29,040
that story to this day

991
00:38:34,630 --> 00:38:32,079
it still affects people because

992
00:38:36,230 --> 00:38:34,640
something real happened that night one i

993
00:38:39,270 --> 00:38:36,240
don't know what it was

994
00:38:41,670 --> 00:38:39,280
but something real happened and then

995
00:38:42,870 --> 00:38:41,680
the weirdest part to tie it all back

996
00:38:45,510 --> 00:38:42,880
into loch ness

997
00:38:46,069 --> 00:38:45,520
is that one show i was doing i was

998
00:38:49,589 --> 00:38:46,079
diving

999
00:38:51,990 --> 00:38:49,599
really deep into the whole kelpie lore

1000
00:38:54,310 --> 00:38:52,000
and it talked about how on rare occasion

1001
00:38:57,190 --> 00:38:54,320
it can take human form

1002
00:38:58,069 --> 00:38:57,200
and often when it takes human form it

1003
00:39:01,270 --> 00:38:58,079
has

1004
00:39:04,630 --> 00:39:01,280
cloven beat

1005
00:39:07,750 --> 00:39:04,640
so i don't know make it what you will

1006
00:39:08,710 --> 00:39:07,760
that's interesting fanny when you're

1007
00:39:10,310 --> 00:39:08,720
talking about

1008
00:39:12,390 --> 00:39:10,320
scotland you're going to come up you got

1009
00:39:14,470 --> 00:39:12,400
to come up with a great legend

1010
00:39:15,750 --> 00:39:14,480
even if it's just a personal legend

1011
00:39:17,829 --> 00:39:15,760
exactly

1012
00:39:18,870 --> 00:39:17,839
you know you were talking about the big

1013
00:39:20,950 --> 00:39:18,880
cats now

1014
00:39:23,349 --> 00:39:20,960
you know there's been talk about these

1015
00:39:27,190 --> 00:39:23,359
big cats in great britain

1016
00:39:30,550 --> 00:39:27,200
for well since the 70s you know when the

1017
00:39:32,310 --> 00:39:30,560
the the wildlife law was passed when

1018
00:39:36,550 --> 00:39:32,320
people who had these

1019
00:39:38,950 --> 00:39:36,560
these large big cats for for pets

1020
00:39:40,710 --> 00:39:38,960
unfortunately they had to pay to start

1021
00:39:42,870 --> 00:39:40,720
paying a tax to keep them and people

1022
00:39:45,990 --> 00:39:42,880
were letting them go

1023
00:39:49,430 --> 00:39:46,000
and eventually it turned out that the

1024
00:39:51,109 --> 00:39:49,440
these big cats found a way to survive in

1025
00:39:53,430 --> 00:39:51,119
the wild

1026
00:39:54,710 --> 00:39:53,440
and uh no i have talked to people who

1027
00:39:57,349 --> 00:39:54,720
have seen these things and

1028
00:39:59,670 --> 00:39:57,359
and they these things are out there in

1029
00:40:03,109 --> 00:39:59,680
fact i i i knew somebody in in

1030
00:40:06,390 --> 00:40:03,119
in wales lived near the carmarthen and

1031
00:40:06,950 --> 00:40:06,400
uh it was on a farm and she literally

1032
00:40:10,390 --> 00:40:06,960
saw

1033
00:40:13,270 --> 00:40:10,400
a black cat grab a sheep

1034
00:40:14,150 --> 00:40:13,280
and take it over a fence you know you

1035
00:40:15,829 --> 00:40:14,160
know i thought

1036
00:40:18,150 --> 00:40:15,839
well geez i mean are you sure that's

1037
00:40:21,190 --> 00:40:18,160
what you saw until absolutely

1038
00:40:22,829 --> 00:40:21,200
yeah yeah so yeah i i've heard a lot of

1039
00:40:26,950 --> 00:40:22,839
different

1040
00:40:29,910 --> 00:40:26,960
yeah you get the jaguars

1041
00:40:30,390 --> 00:40:29,920
um like you said i think a lot of these

1042
00:40:34,470 --> 00:40:30,400
things

1043
00:40:36,630 --> 00:40:34,480
probably got a foothold in the wild

1044
00:40:38,630 --> 00:40:36,640
when people threw them away when they

1045
00:40:41,270 --> 00:40:38,640
couldn't afford to keep them anymore

1046
00:40:43,190 --> 00:40:41,280
yeah as opposed to the bigfoot stories i

1047
00:40:44,790 --> 00:40:43,200
would say it's more common to hear about

1048
00:40:46,630 --> 00:40:44,800
big cats

1049
00:40:48,150 --> 00:40:46,640
but then you know that's not to say that

1050
00:40:50,069 --> 00:40:48,160
in local media

1051
00:40:51,190 --> 00:40:50,079
you know there aren't these reports of

1052
00:40:53,510 --> 00:40:51,200
the bigfoot

1053
00:40:55,750 --> 00:40:53,520
that's the great thing now nowadays long

1054
00:40:58,069 --> 00:40:55,760
um with the internet

1055
00:41:00,390 --> 00:40:58,079
that we're able to get these reports

1056
00:41:03,109 --> 00:41:00,400
from all around the world that perhaps

1057
00:41:05,030 --> 00:41:03,119
20 30 years ago they would have just

1058
00:41:05,670 --> 00:41:05,040
remained little stories in the local

1059
00:41:07,109 --> 00:41:05,680
area

1060
00:41:09,990 --> 00:41:07,119
and we didn't have a chance to put them

1061
00:41:12,630 --> 00:41:10,000
all together you know

1062
00:41:13,829 --> 00:41:12,640
well unfortunately for us over here we

1063
00:41:17,190 --> 00:41:13,839
don't get the

1064
00:41:17,589 --> 00:41:17,200
the press uh that you guys get over

1065
00:41:20,550 --> 00:41:17,599
there

1066
00:41:21,589 --> 00:41:20,560
unfortunately because it's very few and

1067
00:41:24,790 --> 00:41:21,599
far between

1068
00:41:28,309 --> 00:41:24,800
when there's a bigfoot story or uh

1069
00:41:30,550 --> 00:41:28,319
a decent ufo story in our press

1070
00:41:32,309 --> 00:41:30,560
uh and most of the time when there is

1071
00:41:35,270 --> 00:41:32,319
they're gonna ridicule it so

1072
00:41:35,910 --> 00:41:35,280
yeah most of the ufo stories now are all

1073
00:41:39,190 --> 00:41:35,920
wrapped up

1074
00:41:41,990 --> 00:41:39,200
and handed to us by the pentagon right

1075
00:41:43,349 --> 00:41:42,000
to be the way it goes yeah i've got my

1076
00:41:45,510 --> 00:41:43,359
own thoughts about that

1077
00:41:46,950 --> 00:41:45,520
i mean i don't know why they're doing

1078
00:41:49,109 --> 00:41:46,960
that

1079
00:41:51,349 --> 00:41:49,119
are they are they trying to appease

1080
00:41:53,829 --> 00:41:51,359
certain people spoon feed us

1081
00:41:55,829 --> 00:41:53,839
a case here or there you don't see them

1082
00:41:56,309 --> 00:41:55,839
talking about alien beings yet though do

1083
00:42:00,710 --> 00:41:56,319
you

1084
00:42:03,270 --> 00:42:00,720
well um the israeli the ex-space

1085
00:42:04,470 --> 00:42:03,280
security chief of israel he came out the

1086
00:42:07,910 --> 00:42:04,480
other day

1087
00:42:09,030 --> 00:42:07,920
and now granted he's also releasing a

1088
00:42:12,069 --> 00:42:09,040
book

1089
00:42:12,950 --> 00:42:12,079
but he is talking about how israel and

1090
00:42:14,630 --> 00:42:12,960
the us

1091
00:42:16,309 --> 00:42:14,640
have been in contact with something

1092
00:42:18,950 --> 00:42:16,319
called the galactic

1093
00:42:20,630 --> 00:42:18,960
federation for a while now the reason i

1094
00:42:22,150 --> 00:42:20,640
laugh the reason i kind of snickered

1095
00:42:26,069 --> 00:42:22,160
there is because

1096
00:42:27,190 --> 00:42:26,079
there's some wackier realms of ufology

1097
00:42:29,990 --> 00:42:27,200
that have them

1098
00:42:30,470 --> 00:42:30,000
come to life with the internet age sure

1099
00:42:32,550 --> 00:42:30,480
and

1100
00:42:34,470 --> 00:42:32,560
some of the wackier end of the galactic

1101
00:42:34,950 --> 00:42:34,480
federation and blue chickens and things

1102
00:42:37,349 --> 00:42:34,960
like that

1103
00:42:40,230 --> 00:42:37,359
it does tend to make me smile so i don't

1104
00:42:42,870 --> 00:42:40,240
know what this is really cat's game is

1105
00:42:44,309 --> 00:42:42,880
but um paul hellier he is the

1106
00:42:47,510 --> 00:42:44,319
ex-defenseman

1107
00:42:51,270 --> 00:42:47,520
from canada he talks about it

1108
00:42:51,910 --> 00:42:51,280
maybe somewhere maybe our sky brothers

1109
00:42:54,390 --> 00:42:51,920
and sisters

1110
00:42:56,630 --> 00:42:54,400
have said maybe it's time long maybe

1111
00:42:58,630 --> 00:42:56,640
they're going to tell us at long last

1112
00:43:00,710 --> 00:42:58,640
i wouldn't believe anything they tell us

1113
00:43:03,910 --> 00:43:00,720
but maybe i don't know

1114
00:43:06,150 --> 00:43:03,920
well i mean you know i i i

1115
00:43:07,349 --> 00:43:06,160
and i wrote about it in my book i mean i

1116
00:43:11,109 --> 00:43:07,359
i was abducted

1117
00:43:13,430 --> 00:43:11,119
and um i was shown some

1118
00:43:14,630 --> 00:43:13,440
pretty bizarre things that you know

1119
00:43:16,550 --> 00:43:14,640
historical ones

1120
00:43:17,670 --> 00:43:16,560
that you know they aren't really

1121
00:43:20,710 --> 00:43:17,680
explainable

1122
00:43:23,829 --> 00:43:20,720
but when you start thinking about it

1123
00:43:24,309 --> 00:43:23,839
maybe there's something to this uh but

1124
00:43:28,790 --> 00:43:24,319
um

1125
00:43:33,270 --> 00:43:28,800
you know i i talking about scotland and

1126
00:43:35,910 --> 00:43:33,280
uh ufos and abductions and such

1127
00:43:38,069 --> 00:43:35,920
i there is one case that i'm interested

1128
00:43:41,190 --> 00:43:38,079
well there's two cases actually

1129
00:43:45,990 --> 00:43:41,200
the uh the duchmont woods

1130
00:43:48,710 --> 00:43:46,000
encounter and also the a7d abduction

1131
00:43:50,470 --> 00:43:48,720
uh are you aware of those two no i'm not

1132
00:43:54,950 --> 00:43:50,480
one i'm yeah i'm not

1133
00:43:58,470 --> 00:43:54,960
tell me more man i'm intrigued well

1134
00:44:02,470 --> 00:43:58,480
the detriment case was back in

1135
00:44:08,309 --> 00:44:02,480
uh i had to pull it up here but

1136
00:44:10,550 --> 00:44:08,319
let's see here

1137
00:44:12,069 --> 00:44:10,560
yeah i don't have it right now but i i

1138
00:44:13,430 --> 00:44:12,079
you know what what i'm gonna have to do

1139
00:44:15,109 --> 00:44:13,440
i'll send them to you

1140
00:44:16,550 --> 00:44:15,119
please do it i'll send you yeah i'll

1141
00:44:19,109 --> 00:44:16,560
send you the cases

1142
00:44:20,630 --> 00:44:19,119
you know there's i was trying to figure

1143
00:44:23,109 --> 00:44:20,640
out and try to remember

1144
00:44:24,550 --> 00:44:23,119
cases that i had heard from from

1145
00:44:26,230 --> 00:44:24,560
scotland but

1146
00:44:28,630 --> 00:44:26,240
and they're they're not a whole lot i

1147
00:44:30,950 --> 00:44:28,640
mean not like it is down in wales or

1148
00:44:31,990 --> 00:44:30,960
we've got a lamb we've got a designated

1149
00:44:36,150 --> 00:44:32,000
dark area

1150
00:44:40,069 --> 00:44:38,950
where we have a big massive statues of

1151
00:44:42,870 --> 00:44:40,079
kelpies

1152
00:44:44,550 --> 00:44:42,880
yeah and it's a designated dark zone for

1153
00:44:46,950 --> 00:44:44,560
ufo hunters

1154
00:44:48,950 --> 00:44:46,960
and it's like a little hot spot bonnie

1155
00:44:52,069 --> 00:44:48,960
bridge

1156
00:44:54,230 --> 00:44:52,079
ufo hot spot in the uk but as a as for

1157
00:44:56,069 --> 00:44:54,240
abductions or things like that

1158
00:44:58,550 --> 00:44:56,079
it's not i can't think of any that

1159
00:44:59,349 --> 00:44:58,560
spring to mind to be honest with you

1160
00:45:02,550 --> 00:44:59,359
it's not

1161
00:45:04,870 --> 00:45:02,560
a major thing but maybe it is maybe

1162
00:45:05,750 --> 00:45:04,880
people just don't talk about that yeah

1163
00:45:09,109 --> 00:45:05,760
the

1164
00:45:12,630 --> 00:45:09,119
encounter

1165
00:45:14,630 --> 00:45:12,640
and um it was back in oh god i think it

1166
00:45:17,349 --> 00:45:14,640
was back in the 60s

1167
00:45:18,550 --> 00:45:17,359
and then the a70 abduction was a little

1168
00:45:21,589 --> 00:45:18,560
bit later

1169
00:45:23,589 --> 00:45:21,599
uh i've got them i will send them to you

1170
00:45:25,430 --> 00:45:23,599
so you can yeah you can read about them

1171
00:45:27,750 --> 00:45:25,440
um

1172
00:45:29,670 --> 00:45:27,760
you know when you think scotland or when

1173
00:45:32,630 --> 00:45:29,680
i think scotland because you know

1174
00:45:33,750 --> 00:45:32,640
i'm a history buff when i think scotland

1175
00:45:37,030 --> 00:45:33,760
i think ah

1176
00:45:40,069 --> 00:45:37,040
templars rosalind chapel

1177
00:45:43,430 --> 00:45:40,079
uh the mysteries of rosalind chapel

1178
00:45:48,870 --> 00:45:43,440
the sinclair's possibly uh

1179
00:45:55,829 --> 00:45:52,470
you know what's your whole take on that

1180
00:45:59,510 --> 00:45:55,839
funnily enough i'm 44 years old

1181
00:46:02,790 --> 00:45:59,520
and i only went to rosalind chapel

1182
00:46:04,390 --> 00:46:02,800
maybe about a year ago first time i've

1183
00:46:07,589 --> 00:46:04,400
ever been there

1184
00:46:10,790 --> 00:46:07,599
now that is a special special place

1185
00:46:13,750 --> 00:46:10,800
and it sells itself

1186
00:46:13,990 --> 00:46:13,760
obviously with the history the lore like

1187
00:46:17,589 --> 00:46:14,000
we

1188
00:46:21,190 --> 00:46:17,599
with

1189
00:46:21,910 --> 00:46:21,200
gettysburg obviously different situation

1190
00:46:29,510 --> 00:46:21,920
here

1191
00:46:32,870 --> 00:46:29,520
and you know you're in the presence of

1192
00:46:34,790 --> 00:46:32,880
something pretty magical and when we

1193
00:46:37,109 --> 00:46:34,800
were in there

1194
00:46:38,790 --> 00:46:37,119
some of the the architecture the stone

1195
00:46:40,950 --> 00:46:38,800
masonry

1196
00:46:43,190 --> 00:46:40,960
you really you have to be up close and

1197
00:46:46,069 --> 00:46:43,200
personal to it to really appreciate

1198
00:46:46,630 --> 00:46:46,079
it and the story of the pillar and the

1199
00:46:53,589 --> 00:46:46,640
the

1200
00:46:56,630 --> 00:46:53,599
everything i do think that

1201
00:46:59,510 --> 00:46:56,640
um something special

1202
00:47:00,230 --> 00:46:59,520
was found by the templars during one of

1203
00:47:03,349 --> 00:47:00,240
the

1204
00:47:05,510 --> 00:47:03,359
yeah

1205
00:47:07,030 --> 00:47:05,520
yep i don't know what it was i think it

1206
00:47:10,710 --> 00:47:07,040
was something that was

1207
00:47:14,550 --> 00:47:10,720
obviously worth great monetary

1208
00:47:17,589 --> 00:47:14,560
value and they left that what i call

1209
00:47:18,150 --> 00:47:17,599
a message written in stone if you know

1210
00:47:21,030 --> 00:47:18,160
how to

1211
00:47:24,069 --> 00:47:21,040
read their messages rosalind chapel must

1212
00:47:24,710 --> 00:47:24,079
look like some kind of holy textbook and

1213
00:47:27,829 --> 00:47:24,720
there's one

1214
00:47:29,270 --> 00:47:27,839
part of the ceiling that's got 216 stone

1215
00:47:31,990 --> 00:47:29,280
blocks in it

1216
00:47:32,630 --> 00:47:32,000
each of them has been found to represent

1217
00:47:36,069 --> 00:47:32,640
a different

1218
00:47:36,710 --> 00:47:36,079
cymatic frequency there's a pattern on

1219
00:47:38,309 --> 00:47:36,720
them

1220
00:47:40,069 --> 00:47:38,319
and if you're in the cymatics and you

1221
00:47:41,510 --> 00:47:40,079
put frequency through a board and you

1222
00:47:44,150 --> 00:47:41,520
put sand on it

1223
00:47:45,589 --> 00:47:44,160
every frequency has a unique pattern

1224
00:47:47,430 --> 00:47:45,599
that it makes

1225
00:47:49,030 --> 00:47:47,440
so um you've even had people coming in

1226
00:47:52,150 --> 00:47:49,040
there looking at that

1227
00:47:54,790 --> 00:47:52,160
and making pieces of musical work

1228
00:47:55,829 --> 00:47:54,800
from this message that's encoded in

1229
00:47:57,750 --> 00:47:55,839
stone

1230
00:47:59,030 --> 00:47:57,760
we think we've decoded it and we think

1231
00:48:01,510 --> 00:47:59,040
we know what we're looking at

1232
00:48:03,430 --> 00:48:01,520
but only the templars that put it there

1233
00:48:07,190 --> 00:48:03,440
and the sinclairs probably

1234
00:48:08,710 --> 00:48:07,200
they'll know as for the oak island thing

1235
00:48:10,390 --> 00:48:08,720
i don't think you can get away from a

1236
00:48:13,349 --> 00:48:10,400
templar connection

1237
00:48:14,390 --> 00:48:13,359
yeah i think you're right yeah you know

1238
00:48:17,589 --> 00:48:14,400
i have uh

1239
00:48:20,549 --> 00:48:17,599
i have looked into the

1240
00:48:22,069 --> 00:48:20,559
the oak island mystery for almost two

1241
00:48:25,109 --> 00:48:22,079
decades now

1242
00:48:26,150 --> 00:48:25,119
i actually went up there about 20 years

1243
00:48:28,950 --> 00:48:26,160
ago

1244
00:48:30,710 --> 00:48:28,960
but anyway you know i you know i was

1245
00:48:31,270 --> 00:48:30,720
fascinated with people looking for the

1246
00:48:32,870 --> 00:48:31,280
treasure

1247
00:48:34,390 --> 00:48:32,880
first but then i really started getting

1248
00:48:37,190 --> 00:48:34,400
into the history

1249
00:48:39,510 --> 00:48:37,200
and uh of course with the uh the

1250
00:48:42,549 --> 00:48:39,520
sinclairs and the templars

1251
00:48:44,790 --> 00:48:42,559
and like you said most likely they found

1252
00:48:48,230 --> 00:48:44,800
something in jerusalem

1253
00:48:52,069 --> 00:48:48,240
uh at the temple mount or where the

1254
00:48:54,549 --> 00:48:52,079
or the old um the old temple was where

1255
00:48:56,309 --> 00:48:54,559
solomon's temple was yeah down beneath

1256
00:49:00,150 --> 00:48:56,319
solomon's temple they were

1257
00:49:04,309 --> 00:49:01,750
who knows what they found i mean you

1258
00:49:08,230 --> 00:49:04,319
know they they they

1259
00:49:11,109 --> 00:49:08,240
you know they say possibly the

1260
00:49:13,270 --> 00:49:11,119
the ark of the coven or maybe the the

1261
00:49:15,349 --> 00:49:13,280
the gold menorah that was in

1262
00:49:16,950 --> 00:49:15,359
solomon's tomb who knows but you know i

1263
00:49:20,069 --> 00:49:16,960
don't think i do anything

1264
00:49:20,870 --> 00:49:20,079
i think if they did take trouble after

1265
00:49:24,950 --> 00:49:20,880
the purge

1266
00:49:27,510 --> 00:49:24,960
and and come over and travel here

1267
00:49:29,589 --> 00:49:27,520
to north america i'm quite sure they

1268
00:49:31,109 --> 00:49:29,599
brought more than that with them yeah

1269
00:49:33,510 --> 00:49:31,119
and there are people that have talked

1270
00:49:34,470 --> 00:49:33,520
about uh maybe shakespeare's manuscripts

1271
00:49:37,109 --> 00:49:34,480
are there

1272
00:49:39,430 --> 00:49:37,119
maybe there's something else i i think i

1273
00:49:43,270 --> 00:49:39,440
think something is there now

1274
00:49:47,510 --> 00:49:45,270
they would have been people in the know

1275
00:49:49,270 --> 00:49:47,520
would have known that there was a

1276
00:49:51,109 --> 00:49:49,280
something going on if they were

1277
00:49:54,950 --> 00:49:51,119
connected through the right

1278
00:49:57,750 --> 00:49:54,960
kind of um brothers

1279
00:49:58,630 --> 00:49:57,760
people they knew maybe they had heard

1280
00:50:00,790 --> 00:49:58,640
about this

1281
00:50:02,309 --> 00:50:00,800
operation this because it must have

1282
00:50:04,630 --> 00:50:02,319
taken them years

1283
00:50:05,589 --> 00:50:04,640
to do what they've done at oak island so

1284
00:50:08,549 --> 00:50:05,599
somebody like

1285
00:50:09,829 --> 00:50:08,559
sir francis drake you know um his

1286
00:50:11,430 --> 00:50:09,839
writings

1287
00:50:13,109 --> 00:50:11,440
unlike you i think it might have been a

1288
00:50:14,710 --> 00:50:13,119
couple of journeys there may have been a

1289
00:50:17,190 --> 00:50:14,720
whole heap of different stuff

1290
00:50:18,309 --> 00:50:17,200
stashed there but my question to you

1291
00:50:19,990 --> 00:50:18,319
would be

1292
00:50:21,589 --> 00:50:20,000
do you think there's anything still

1293
00:50:24,829 --> 00:50:21,599
there or

1294
00:50:26,230 --> 00:50:24,839
that's just it you know yeah i i don't

1295
00:50:29,270 --> 00:50:26,240
know

1296
00:50:32,309 --> 00:50:29,280
my honest opinion i don't think there is

1297
00:50:34,630 --> 00:50:32,319
uh there may be remnants of something

1298
00:50:36,950 --> 00:50:34,640
but you know they had dug all over that

1299
00:50:40,069 --> 00:50:36,960
island and quite frankly

1300
00:50:42,710 --> 00:50:40,079
if they they should have hit the vault

1301
00:50:44,309 --> 00:50:42,720
by now if that vault is actually there

1302
00:50:46,390 --> 00:50:44,319
now of course they're going off on

1303
00:50:49,829 --> 00:50:46,400
tangents and other things

1304
00:50:53,349 --> 00:50:49,839
they're they're finding school uh

1305
00:50:54,950 --> 00:50:53,359
evidence you know if it was the templars

1306
00:50:55,589 --> 00:50:54,960
there were more than just the templars

1307
00:51:08,790 --> 00:50:55,599
there

1308
00:51:10,150 --> 00:51:08,800
yeah you know you know it it's it's not

1309
00:51:15,829 --> 00:51:10,160
beyond

1310
00:51:17,990 --> 00:51:15,839
the actual theory of them being there

1311
00:51:19,030 --> 00:51:18,000
because we know the vikings were in

1312
00:51:22,230 --> 00:51:19,040
finland

1313
00:51:26,710 --> 00:51:22,240
around the 11th century so

1314
00:51:28,470 --> 00:51:26,720
um yeah who knows what's there i

1315
00:51:30,630 --> 00:51:28,480
you know i kind of got stuck on that

1316
00:51:33,109 --> 00:51:30,640
show i hated to do that because

1317
00:51:41,750 --> 00:51:33,119
it seems like you got strung on every

1318
00:51:44,790 --> 00:51:43,670
and you're right you know they keep you

1319
00:51:46,790 --> 00:51:44,800
hanging and

1320
00:51:49,349 --> 00:51:46,800
i tell you what em the guys that have

1321
00:51:50,870 --> 00:51:49,359
got it rick and marty laguna

1322
00:51:53,190 --> 00:51:50,880
i think they're in it for the right

1323
00:51:56,390 --> 00:51:53,200
reason they're already millionaires

1324
00:51:58,390 --> 00:51:56,400
and i think they enjoy the history as

1325
00:51:59,270 --> 00:51:58,400
much as they enjoy the actual treasure

1326
00:52:01,349 --> 00:51:59,280
hunt you know

1327
00:52:03,270 --> 00:52:01,359
i think you're right and that's why

1328
00:52:06,069 --> 00:52:03,280
that's the part of it i enjoy

1329
00:52:08,230 --> 00:52:06,079
yeah because i really like to know what

1330
00:52:10,549 --> 00:52:08,240
they find as far as history was

1331
00:52:12,309 --> 00:52:10,559
if they never find a piece of gold

1332
00:52:14,390 --> 00:52:12,319
that's i don't care

1333
00:52:16,390 --> 00:52:14,400
yeah i don't do either and i think

1334
00:52:18,549 --> 00:52:16,400
that's probably the best type of people

1335
00:52:23,750 --> 00:52:18,559
to have the island because then

1336
00:52:27,190 --> 00:52:25,510
a couple i'd like to get them i'd like

1337
00:52:28,309 --> 00:52:27,200
to have a chat with them one day put it

1338
00:52:31,270 --> 00:52:28,319
that way

1339
00:52:32,630 --> 00:52:31,280
that's for sure yeah i you know i i

1340
00:52:34,069 --> 00:52:32,640
would probably

1341
00:52:35,589 --> 00:52:34,079
like to get them i don't know how much

1342
00:52:38,230 --> 00:52:35,599
problem it would be to get them on the

1343
00:52:40,630 --> 00:52:38,240
show but they'd be a good interview

1344
00:52:42,150 --> 00:52:40,640
but you know i'm with you i think it i

1345
00:52:43,829 --> 00:52:42,160
think the history is the most

1346
00:52:47,670 --> 00:52:43,839
fascinating part about it

1347
00:52:51,030 --> 00:52:47,680
yeah and uh you know our history

1348
00:52:55,270 --> 00:52:51,040
in north america is is not that long

1349
00:52:58,549 --> 00:52:55,280
and uh whatever we can find

1350
00:52:58,950 --> 00:52:58,559
that connects to the old world connects

1351
00:53:02,069 --> 00:52:58,960
to

1352
00:53:03,750 --> 00:53:02,079
great britain and you know the countries

1353
00:53:06,549 --> 00:53:03,760
of

1354
00:53:06,950 --> 00:53:06,559
the united kingdom and and such that's

1355
00:53:09,190 --> 00:53:06,960
just

1356
00:53:10,309 --> 00:53:09,200
fine with me because you know i i love

1357
00:53:11,750 --> 00:53:10,319
history periods

1358
00:53:13,349 --> 00:53:11,760
and i mean you're talking about oak

1359
00:53:15,670 --> 00:53:13,359
island nova scotia

1360
00:53:17,270 --> 00:53:15,680
new scotland i mean when we were in the

1361
00:53:20,069 --> 00:53:17,280
military when we went over to

1362
00:53:21,270 --> 00:53:20,079
mcdill air force base oh do you want

1363
00:53:23,270 --> 00:53:21,280
you're in mcdill

1364
00:53:25,109 --> 00:53:23,280
yeah yeah we spent a night up in um

1365
00:53:27,910 --> 00:53:25,119
canada nova scotia

1366
00:53:29,349 --> 00:53:27,920
and i swear it was like something i was

1367
00:53:30,470 --> 00:53:29,359
like i don't know

1368
00:53:32,790 --> 00:53:30,480
what it was like because i don't know

1369
00:53:33,589 --> 00:53:32,800
what i was expecting but when we got

1370
00:53:36,549 --> 00:53:33,599
there it was all

1371
00:53:38,390 --> 00:53:36,559
scottish flags and and i'm thinking all

1372
00:53:39,990 --> 00:53:38,400
right i know it's called nova scotia but

1373
00:53:42,309 --> 00:53:40,000
i had no idea

1374
00:53:43,430 --> 00:53:42,319
just how proud of the scottish

1375
00:53:45,750 --> 00:53:43,440
connections

1376
00:53:47,349 --> 00:53:45,760
that the people had there i mean we were

1377
00:53:49,270 --> 00:53:47,359
only there one night on the way there

1378
00:53:51,829 --> 00:53:49,280
one night on the way back but

1379
00:53:53,190 --> 00:53:51,839
i tell you what um wow what what people

1380
00:53:55,430 --> 00:53:53,200
so welcoming

1381
00:53:57,109 --> 00:53:55,440
and like a little warm away from home it

1382
00:53:58,230 --> 00:53:57,119
really was and when you had an accent

1383
00:53:59,510 --> 00:53:58,240
like this

1384
00:54:03,270 --> 00:53:59,520
you didn't have to put your hand in your

1385
00:54:05,109 --> 00:54:03,280
pocket all night so bonus

1386
00:54:06,710 --> 00:54:05,119
yeah i'll have to talk to you someday

1387
00:54:10,710 --> 00:54:06,720
about the uh

1388
00:54:12,309 --> 00:54:10,720
the bigfoot uh uh habituation i was

1389
00:54:15,349 --> 00:54:12,319
involved with up in northern

1390
00:54:17,030 --> 00:54:15,359
nova scotia uh we've had some pretty

1391
00:54:19,109 --> 00:54:17,040
interesting case

1392
00:54:20,870 --> 00:54:19,119
cases from up there i'll have to forward

1393
00:54:23,750 --> 00:54:20,880
that to you one day

1394
00:54:24,470 --> 00:54:23,760
and uh yeah nova scotia is pretty cool

1395
00:54:27,670 --> 00:54:24,480
uh

1396
00:54:29,750 --> 00:54:27,680
new scotland it's it is it's pretty cool

1397
00:54:30,790 --> 00:54:29,760
uh when people think of nova scotia

1398
00:54:33,589 --> 00:54:30,800
think about the

1399
00:54:36,470 --> 00:54:33,599
i mean cajuns and you know and you know

1400
00:54:40,309 --> 00:54:36,480
french and such well it's not like that

1401
00:54:42,390 --> 00:54:40,319
you know that whole maritimes of of uh

1402
00:54:44,230 --> 00:54:42,400
of canada are quite interesting my dad

1403
00:54:45,349 --> 00:54:44,240
spent time in the air force up there as

1404
00:54:47,589 --> 00:54:45,359
well

1405
00:54:49,589 --> 00:54:47,599
yeah yeah he was in uh he was in

1406
00:54:52,230 --> 00:54:49,599
labrador gooseberry

1407
00:54:54,470 --> 00:54:52,240
and of course and that's where we

1408
00:54:58,309 --> 00:54:54,480
actually came in

1409
00:55:01,589 --> 00:54:58,319
yeah yeah yeah so yeah he was with uh

1410
00:55:03,670 --> 00:55:01,599
strategic air command and uh yeah

1411
00:55:04,870 --> 00:55:03,680
he actually his commander was paul

1412
00:55:06,710 --> 00:55:04,880
tibbetts

1413
00:55:09,270 --> 00:55:06,720
and you know during you know when he was

1414
00:55:12,150 --> 00:55:09,280
in during uh korea so yeah

1415
00:55:14,309 --> 00:55:12,160
he was with the 509th the same the same

1416
00:55:17,270 --> 00:55:14,319
bomber group that was at roswell

1417
00:55:19,510 --> 00:55:17,280
and uh i have had the fortune of being

1418
00:55:22,309 --> 00:55:19,520
able to talk to a lot of guys that were

1419
00:55:23,030 --> 00:55:22,319
out there at the time who remained in

1420
00:55:24,710 --> 00:55:23,040
the in the

1421
00:55:27,349 --> 00:55:24,720
group and i've been to reunions and

1422
00:55:29,030 --> 00:55:27,359
stuff it's interesting

1423
00:55:30,549 --> 00:55:29,040
they don't say a whole lot you know my

1424
00:55:31,910 --> 00:55:30,559
father was pretty tight-lipped about

1425
00:55:34,950 --> 00:55:31,920
that stuff too

1426
00:55:37,589 --> 00:55:34,960
he really honored his uh his

1427
00:55:39,430 --> 00:55:37,599
disclosure agreement with the government

1428
00:55:40,950 --> 00:55:39,440
that's why i always kind of then tell

1429
00:55:43,829 --> 00:55:40,960
people to be very wary

1430
00:55:44,789 --> 00:55:43,839
when um get whistleblowers turning up on

1431
00:55:48,069 --> 00:55:44,799
youtube

1432
00:55:50,230 --> 00:55:48,079
yeah and like lorne is saying here

1433
00:55:51,190 --> 00:55:50,240
these people they're not the kind of

1434
00:55:53,109 --> 00:55:51,200
people that tell

1435
00:55:55,270 --> 00:55:53,119
tell tales you don't get into these

1436
00:55:57,589 --> 00:55:55,280
positions if you're the type of person

1437
00:56:00,789 --> 00:55:57,599
that has a loose tongue

1438
00:56:02,789 --> 00:56:00,799
so um yeah it makes sense to me

1439
00:56:04,230 --> 00:56:02,799
one hearing you say that they don't

1440
00:56:06,230 --> 00:56:04,240
really talk about it

1441
00:56:09,030 --> 00:56:06,240
because that's what i would expect you

1442
00:56:10,950 --> 00:56:09,040
know from proper military

1443
00:56:13,670 --> 00:56:10,960
yeah yeah that's just the way it is i

1444
00:56:16,470 --> 00:56:13,680
mean he honored that all the time

1445
00:56:19,109 --> 00:56:16,480
i mean i know um he was the reserves

1446
00:56:21,030 --> 00:56:19,119
when i was very young and uh

1447
00:56:23,510 --> 00:56:21,040
he used to actually when nasa first

1448
00:56:25,270 --> 00:56:23,520
started down in huntsville alabama

1449
00:56:27,510 --> 00:56:25,280
he was actually down there as well doing

1450
00:56:30,549 --> 00:56:27,520
some things so yeah i mean it's

1451
00:56:32,230 --> 00:56:30,559
uh they they do it a lot of these guys

1452
00:56:33,190 --> 00:56:32,240
honor that you know and when you hear

1453
00:56:35,910 --> 00:56:33,200
about the

1454
00:56:37,670 --> 00:56:35,920
these ex-military telling you about this

1455
00:56:41,270 --> 00:56:37,680
and that as far as ufos and

1456
00:56:43,109 --> 00:56:41,280
stuff you know i take it with a grain of

1457
00:56:45,589 --> 00:56:43,119
salt for the most part

1458
00:56:46,470 --> 00:56:45,599
i don't necessarily buy into all that

1459
00:56:48,950 --> 00:56:46,480
because i know

1460
00:56:49,670 --> 00:56:48,960
i know the the culture and you know the

1461
00:56:52,710 --> 00:56:49,680
culture

1462
00:56:55,030 --> 00:56:52,720
so you know how that is yeah i am

1463
00:56:57,190 --> 00:56:55,040
i learned the hard way buying into all

1464
00:56:59,670 --> 00:56:57,200
of it at the beginning and then

1465
00:57:02,309 --> 00:56:59,680
poorly picking apart these people that

1466
00:57:03,910 --> 00:57:02,319
had put on pedestals and thought oh no

1467
00:57:05,910 --> 00:57:03,920
but um that's how you learn that's how

1468
00:57:07,910 --> 00:57:05,920
you learn over here in the uk we've got

1469
00:57:12,309 --> 00:57:07,920
the 40th anniversary

1470
00:57:15,510 --> 00:57:12,319
of the rendelstrom forest institute

1471
00:57:17,750 --> 00:57:15,520
that's like our roswell you know yes

1472
00:57:20,230 --> 00:57:17,760
yes interesting yeah that's a that's an

1473
00:57:23,670 --> 00:57:20,240
enigma on itself it really is

1474
00:57:26,710 --> 00:57:23,680
yeah you know 40 years later

1475
00:57:29,190 --> 00:57:26,720
it still gets so much or there is so

1476
00:57:32,470 --> 00:57:29,200
much controversy still around it

1477
00:57:33,430 --> 00:57:32,480
that for me you know um the fact that

1478
00:57:36,870 --> 00:57:33,440
there's still people

1479
00:57:37,829 --> 00:57:36,880
arguing over in it no smoke without fire

1480
00:57:39,829 --> 00:57:37,839
there's something at the

1481
00:57:41,109 --> 00:57:39,839
the core of that story that people don't

1482
00:57:45,349 --> 00:57:41,119
want you to know about

1483
00:57:46,069 --> 00:57:45,359
you know yeah yep so kev before we go

1484
00:57:47,589 --> 00:57:46,079
tonight i

1485
00:57:50,470 --> 00:57:47,599
want you to tell the folks about your

1486
00:57:53,910 --> 00:57:50,480
shows and uh

1487
00:57:54,549 --> 00:57:53,920
go ahead and advertise what you do and

1488
00:57:57,030 --> 00:57:54,559
yeah

1489
00:57:58,789 --> 00:57:57,040
so how they can connect with you um you

1490
00:58:02,950 --> 00:57:58,799
can find me here on

1491
00:58:05,430 --> 00:58:02,960
youtube um i'm on tfr uh monday tuesday

1492
00:58:06,150 --> 00:58:05,440
wednesday thursday on the kev baker so 5

1493
00:58:09,190 --> 00:58:06,160
p.m and

1494
00:58:09,829 --> 00:58:09,200
est it's on for two hours we get authors

1495
00:58:13,109 --> 00:58:09,839
coming on

1496
00:58:16,309 --> 00:58:13,119
something scientists real people

1497
00:58:18,549 --> 00:58:16,319
just like ordinary listeners as well uh

1498
00:58:21,109 --> 00:58:18,559
cover everything from geopolitics to

1499
00:58:22,549 --> 00:58:21,119
exopolitics but i prefer to do the stuff

1500
00:58:25,109 --> 00:58:22,559
like lawn does

1501
00:58:27,109 --> 00:58:25,119
this is the stuff that really genuinely

1502
00:58:29,270 --> 00:58:27,119
interests me and excites me so it's

1503
00:58:30,230 --> 00:58:29,280
easier to get into and be enthusiastic

1504
00:58:33,030 --> 00:58:30,240
about

1505
00:58:33,670 --> 00:58:33,040
i am we cover the election shenanigans

1506
00:58:36,470 --> 00:58:33,680
anything

1507
00:58:37,190 --> 00:58:36,480
everything we'll talk about it and uh

1508
00:58:40,390 --> 00:58:37,200
yeah

1509
00:58:43,990 --> 00:58:40,400
head on over find me at tfrlive.com or

1510
00:58:44,390 --> 00:58:44,000
here on youtube well kev i want to thank

1511
00:58:48,150 --> 00:58:44,400
you for

1512
00:58:50,230 --> 00:58:48,160
for spending the time with us staying up

1513
00:58:52,549 --> 00:58:50,240
i have been on your show one it's been

1514
00:58:54,230 --> 00:58:52,559
great i've been on your show it's a

1515
00:58:56,630 --> 00:58:54,240
great show i love it i

1516
00:58:58,950 --> 00:58:56,640
plan on coming back again sometime and i

1517
00:59:00,950 --> 00:58:58,960
definitely want you to come back as well

1518
00:59:03,190 --> 00:59:00,960
oh i most certainly will brother

1519
00:59:05,430 --> 00:59:03,200
anything that goes on in scotland

1520
00:59:06,870 --> 00:59:05,440
i'll be your man on the ground right now

1521
00:59:08,870 --> 00:59:06,880
sounds good to me

1522
00:59:10,950 --> 00:59:08,880
all right my mind you have a good

1523
00:59:14,390 --> 00:59:10,960
evening and i'll talk to you later

1524
00:59:16,390 --> 00:59:14,400
thank you one bye bye take care

1525
00:59:18,230 --> 00:59:16,400
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1526
00:59:20,630 --> 00:59:18,240
sighting feel free to contact me through

1527
00:59:22,390 --> 00:59:20,640
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1528
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1533
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1534
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1535
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1536
00:59:40,630 --> 00:59:39,760
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1537
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1538
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1539
00:59:47,589 --> 00:59:45,440
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1540
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1541
00:59:50,150 --> 00:59:49,440
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1542
00:59:52,870 --> 00:59:50,160
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1543
00:59:53,910 --> 00:59:52,880
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1544
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1545
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1546
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1547
01:00:04,470 --> 01:00:01,599
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1549
01:00:07,990 --> 01:00:06,079
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1550
01:00:09,589 --> 01:00:08,000
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1551
01:00:11,430 --> 01:00:09,599
wouldn't hurt either

1552
01:00:13,030 --> 01:00:11,440
so i once again thank kev baker for

1553
01:00:14,870 --> 01:00:13,040
joining me this evening

1554
01:00:16,470 --> 01:00:14,880
and i want to thank you for listening to

1555
01:00:18,829 --> 01:00:16,480
the show stay healthy